The Sedona Conference Working Group 13 on Artificial Intelligence and the Law: Inaugural Meeting 2025

Date:

Thursday, January 16, 2025 - 8:30am to Friday, January 17, 2025 - 3:00pm

Location:
The Camby Hotel
2401 East Camelback Road
Phoenix, AZ 85016

Welcome Reception:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 5:30 - 7:30 p.m.

Artificial Intelligence touches almost every aspect of the law. Several established Sedona Conference Working Groups are already tackling issues such as using AI in eDiscovery, AI and inventorship in patent law, and AI as a data privacy and cybersecurity risk. After two successful conferences on AI and the Law, The Sedona Conference will launch a new Working Group 13 with the dual mission of coordinating the AI-related activities of existing Working Groups and serving as an incubator to develop analyses and recommend principles and best practices addressing AI in other legal contexts.

We will meet in Phoenix, Arizona, in January, starting with a welcome reception on Wednesday evening, January 15, and ending with the adjournment at 3:00 p.m. on Friday, January 17. The draft agenda is below. The specific focus if a session may narrow as the panels meet and plan their sessions, but the general topics are not expected to change. A detailed agenda with dialogue leaders will be issued as soon as it is solidified.

To attend the meeting or join other Working Group 13 activities, you must either be a member of The Sedona Conference Working Group Series in good standing or an employee of a Working Group Series Sponsor. Judges, full-time government employees, and academics in accredited non-profit educational institutions may obtain a complimentary WGS membership and enjoy special consideration in meeting registration fees.

Available Hotels in the Area:
The room block at The Camby Hotel is now sold out. Below are several hotels in the area that are within a 15-minute walk to The Camby. Please note that The Sedona Conference has no contractual relationship with these hotels. We can neither provide a rate nor ensure the hotel's quality.

These are just a few in the area, and there may be others that better fit your needs.

CLE
The Sedona Conference will seek CLE accreditation for this meeting in selected jurisdictions, as dictated by attendance. Because this is an inaugural meeting of Working Group 13 and there will be significant portions of the agenda dedicated to the business needs of the working group, there is a potential that we will not achieve the typical number of hours of approved CLE.

CO-CHAIRS

Maura R. Grossman

University of Waterloo

Waterloo, ON, Canada

Niloy Ray

Littler Mendelson P.C.

Minneapolis, MN, USA

Dialogue Leaders

Dr. Ryan Abbott University of Surrey Surrey, United Kingdom	Brent Arnold Gowling WLG Canada LLP Toronto, ON, Canada	Holden Benon Joseph Saveri Law Firm San Francisco, CA, USA	Scott Michael Bien UnitedLex Corporation Blue Ash, OH, USA
Prof. Gordon V. Cormack University of Waterloo Waterloo, ON, Canada	Luc Dahlin Meta Platforms San Jose, CA, USA	Tara S. Emory Covington & Burling LLP Chantilly, VA, USA	Hon. Allison Goddard U.S. District Court, Southern District of California San Diego, CA, USA
Bruce Hedin Hedin B Consulting Carmel, CA, USA	Serge D. Jorgensen Crowe LLP Sarasota, FL, USA	Michael Kearney Redgrave LLP Washington, DC, USA	Scott M. Kelly Banner Witcoff Washington, DC, USA
Lestin Kenton Sterne, Kessler, Goldstein & Fox PLLC Washington, DC, USA	Jim W. Ko Ko IP & AI Law PLLC Chandler, AZ, USA	Jerry Ma USPTO Alexandria, VA, USA	Gary Marchant Arizona State University Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Paul H. McVoy Repario Data Milford, CT, USA	David Moncure Crowe Spring, TX, USA	Staci J Olsen Baron & Budd PC Dallas, TX, USA	Dean Pelletier Pelletier Law, LLC Chicago, IL, USA
Matthew D. Powers Tensegrity Law Group LLP San Francisco, CA, USA	Justice Jill R. Presser Ontario Superior Court of Justice Toronto, ON, Canada	Hon. Xavier Rodriguez U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas San Antonio, TX, USA	Mark Selwyn WilmerHale Palo Alto, CA, USA
Robyn Jewel Shepard Digital Mountain, Inc. Madison, WI, USA	Nichole Sterling BakerHostetler New York, NY, USA	Dr. Harry Strange Withers & Rogers, LLP Warwick, United Kingdom	Hon. Sam A Thumma Arizona Court of Appeals Phoenix, AZ, USA
Kathi Vidal Winston & Strawn LLP Washington, DC, USA	Lucky Vidmar Microsoft Seattle, WA, USA	Nikki Vo Meta Platforms San Francisco, CA, USA	Kenneth J. Withers The Sedona Conference Phoenix, AZ, USA
Prof. Patrick E. Zeller Aristocrat Chicago, IL, USA

WG13 Inaugural Meeting Agenda

Time	Session	Panelists
	Wednesday, January 15, 2025	*(=moderator)**
5:30 — 7:30 p.m.	Welcome Reception
	Thursday, January 16, 2025
7:30 — 8:30 a.m.	Breakfast & sign-in
8:30 — 9:00 a.m.	Welcome and Announcements
	What does a TSC Working Group do and how? What else is TSC currently doing in the AI space?	Grossman, Ray, Withers*
9:00 — 10:00 a.m.	[Session 01] What Do We Mean by "AI"
	Technology primer on AI technologies What is included and excluded when we say "AI"	McVoy, Ray*, Strange, Vidmar
10:00 — 10:15 a.m.	Morning Break
10:15 — 11:15 a.m.	[Session 02] Regulation of AI
	What new laws and regulations have been proposed or implemented to address AI technologies What existing laws and regulations might have a major impact on AI use?	Arnold, McMurrough, Pelletier*, Ray, Sterling
11:15 — 12:15 p.m.	[Session 03] Real-Life AI Use Cases: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
	For what legal and business functions are utilizing AI effectively? Where has AI failed to deliver on its promise, and why? Are there any functions for which AI is inappropriate?	Bien, Dahlin, Emory*, Ma
12:15 — 1:15 p.m.	Lunch (provided)
1:15 — 2:15 p.m.	[Session 04] Measurement, Defensibility, and Compliance: Vetting, Validation, and Monitoring of AI Tools and Uses
	Laws, regulations, and business cases for AI are all based on assessments of its fitness for purpose (validity and reliability). But can we agree on how to make those assessments? AI business cases are fine-tuned to deliver optimal decisions and outcomes, but AI-regulating laws are focused on compliance with legal standards. As various jurisdictions begin requiring AI impact assessments, bias audits, and other AI validations, can we agree on the best way forward?	Cormack, Grossman, Hedin*
2:15 — 3:15 p.m.	[Session 05] AI Governance
	The introduction of AI into an enterprise, and GenAI in particular, raises many questions about information collection, retention, stewardship, access, and disposal that are the bedrock of Information Governance policies and procedures. How does Information Governance need to be expanded to incorporate AI?	Kearney, Moncure*, Olsen, Zeller
3:15 — 3:30 p.m.	Afternoon Break
3:30 — 4:30 p.m.	[Session 06] IP Part 1: Training of AI on Potentially Copyrighted Information
	GenAI requires massive amounts of data for training, and the hightest quality data. Books, edited articles, published works of art, and music - are generally protected by copyright. Is ingestion of such data a violation of copyright, "fair use," or something else entirely? Should we compensate creators for access to their work, and if so, how might we do that?	Benon, Selwyn, Vo*
4:30 — 5:30 p.m.	[Session 07] IP Part 2: Patenting and Copyrighting of AI-Genereated Content
	Currently, the Copyright Office will decline to protect any work created by AI. The Patent Office requires "reasonable disclosure" of the role of AI in developing the invention. Is either approach appropriate, or do we need entirely new concepts of "invention" and "creation" that account for the future pervasiveness of AI in human creations?	Abbott, Kelly*, Kenton, Powers, Vidal
5:30 — 7:30 p.m.	Reception (guests invited)
	Friday, January 17, 2025
7:30 — 8:30 a.m.	Breakfast & sign-in
8:30 — 9:45 a.m.	[Session 08] AI and the Courts (Including Evidentiary Issues) - Judges Panel
	Can AI help relieve overburdened courts? Can AI assist self-represented litigants? Should judges be using GenAI and if so, for what tasks? How can judges and juries spot AI-generated evidence?	Goddard, Grossman*, Presser, Rodriguez, Thumma
9:45 — 10:45 a.m.	[Session 09] What the Future of AI Holds: Law and Technology
	What is next on the horizon for AI? Where can advances in AI improve the legal system? What are the potential legal dangers that these advances might present?	Marchant, Jorgensen*, Shepard, Vidmar
10:45 — 11:00 a.m.	Morning Break
11:00 — 12:00 p.m.	[Session 10] Where Does Working Group 13 Go From Here
	Can we identify tipping point legal issues raised by AI that would benefit from further analysis and guidance for courts and lawmakers? Are there issues for which we might reach broad agreement on principles or guidelines for resolution? Given limited volunteer resources and much landscape to cover, where can The Sedona Conference get the biggest bang for its buck?	Grossman, Ko*, Moncure, Ray, Withers
12:00 — 12:30 p.m.	Lunch (grab-and-go - take to Breakout Room)
12:30 — 1:30 p.m.	Breakout 1
	Topic(s) to be determined.
1:30 — 1:45 p.m.	Afternoon Break
1:45 — 2:45 p.m.	Breakout 2
	Topic(s) to be determined.
2:45 — 3:00 p.m.	Closing Remarks and Adjournment

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